Smith & Winborn
East Horsley, KT24
3.5/5, 26 reviews
65% recommended
0% lettings valuation accuracy
99% lettings fee satisfaction



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“When looking for somewhere to for our second year at ......”

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Mar 18,2014
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By: 'WARNING'
Mar 18,2014
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When looking for somewhere to for our second year at University we were informed by David Rolph that he had many properties we could look at. He's a good salesman I'll give him that - talking up all the properties - spacious and great value for money. However when we went to view these amazing properties we were left horrified. How SWR can represent landlords and try and encourage people to let these properties astounds me. Most of the properties were old and run down and just plain dirty. I think these people genuinely believe that it is acceptable to expect people to live in these disgusting houses just because they are "students".

We finally decided on a house to rent and paid all the fees etc. However, when it came to the day we moved in we arrived at the house to find dead flies, spiders etc everywhere. The place was completely filthy. The garden was overgrown, the carpets were stained and most disturbingly of all the mattresses had some horrendous stains on them - so bad that they had to be immediately replaced. We also had to have professional cleaners in before we could move in, causing a delay to us moving in.

Although we did appreciate that David Rolph was able to fix the issues they shouldn't have been there in the first place - any decent landlord or letting agent surely should have checked the property over before letting new tenants move in?

Throughout the year David Rolph was extremely difficult to contact, many times messages, emails and voicemails were left for him with no reply. Often we had to contact him in several different ways, several times just to get a useless response. He seemed to think that as students he could be as rude and condescending to us as he wanted, although unsurprisingly if a parent called he would come over all polite and helpful which was infuriating for us.

The house was not up to scratch by any standards, it was awful. "The best of a bad bunch" is the only way to describe it.

When we finally left the property there were more issues to contend with - being expected to pay for cleaners when we left - baring in mind the state it was in when we arrived we found this a shocking request. We left the house in a much, MUCH better state than when we arrived and even cleaner than after the cleaners had been in. The cheek of this letting agency is unbelievable, they have no concern for tenants at all and are only focused on making money for themselves and landlords.

David Rolph is the only agent we dealt with so we cannot comment on any other staff, we found him completely useless, rude and extremely arrogant the whole time we were dealing with him.

I urge anyone contemplating using this SWR letting agency to seriously reconsider and find someone else. ANYONE ELSE.
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By: David Rolph
Aug 13, 2014
I am David Rolph, I deal with many hundreds of students each year and I have to say, I thoroughly enjoy it, however, just occasionally things go wrong. The tenants in question I found to be really nice throughout the tenancy so was a little disappointed to read that the feelings weren't mutual, however, I can see why they ended up being disappointed. Any issues were dealt with very quickly, however, they will have you believe differently
It is true, the house was not perfect when they moved in, however we did everything in our power to correct any areas needing attention as quickly as possible. It is at this point and only this point that I spoke to one of the parents. Other than once more after checkout, this was the only time I spoke to a parent.
Unfortunately for this group, they left it till late in the day to look for a house and ended up having to join 2 others that they didnt know to complete their group of 4. One of their housemates disappeared after 1 month and, although there was an advance to cover some of the rent, there was still 4-5 months of rent unpaid. Try as the tenants did they couldn't replace him so this rent was deducted from the deposit, clearly a source for anger and disappointment, however, there is no-one here they can blame except the tenant that disappeared. Sadly it seems, I bore the brunt of the anger. Throughout this whole process, I was in communication with the University of Surrey trying to get their accommodations office to send anyone looking for a room to contact us or the tenants.
In order to reduce this liability, we even agreed to end their tenancy over a month early to save them money.
We charged them no cleaning costs at checkout due to the problems we had at the start of the tenancy, however, we did have to pay for a van load of rubbish to be taken away, this was deducted from the deposit.
By letting them off the last month and a half rent, we effectively saved them over £2000, however, for some reason, this wasn't good enough.
I deal extensively with the University and students and have never been accused of being arrogant or rude, however, if that is the opinion of Rachel and Francesca then I am sorry you feel this way.
With regards to the quality of the house, there are better and there are worse. We do not accept any sub-standard properties and ensure that certification and high standards are kept up to date. This said, following this tenancy we recommended a new bathroom be put in to this house and it's been very much enjoyed by every tenant since.
I am sorry your housemate let you down so badly, I do wish however, that if you decide to write a review, you be honest and fair. Making up issues and comments to satisfy your anger just to damage my reputation is simply not fair. Honest and constructive criticism is always welcome.

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Smith & Winborn
PO Box 112
Effingham,East Horsley
Surrey
KT24 5YE
01372 750647

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Services Valuation Accuracy Fees Satisfaction Min Price of property reviewed Max Price of property reviewed
Lettings 0% 99% £1,800 £2,100
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David
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Oct 12,2018
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We used SWR as our agency for two years. Initially David asked for our price range as well as what preferences we had for our letting. He then showed us a selection across our price range. Which we then settled on a house we liked. ...
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From what I recall they were reasonable and in line with what all the other agencies were charging if not cheaper than some of the bigger agencies.
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“Good agent, but paperwork mistakes...”

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Sep 27,2018
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David
By: 'TS'
Sep 27,2018
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Two of us three student tenants had agreed with David, the lettings agent, that we would pay a rent advance instead of going through the process of nominating a guarantor. Several months before the start of the tenancy, we and the landlord signed an AST ...
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Very reasonable fees, although there is no discount for not using a guarantor (some lettings agencies will then waive the guarantor referencing fee).
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Oct 11, 2018
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Many thanks for your feedback. Apologies again for the error at the start of the tenancy, completely my fault, my maths clearly let me known on this occasion. I hope you enjoyed your year at the house. Just to add though, our current fees are lower for tenants without Guarantors. ...

“After reading all the coments on the review site, I ......”

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May 29,2014
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After reading all the coments on the review site, I can without a doubt state I will not be using this company. It is ubuntedly clear this company are focused on their landlords and do not respect students, which I am one of. All comments ...
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Jul 14, 2014
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One of the reasons people may not come to you directly is due to the fact there is a lack of communication on your part throughout a contract. It is difficult enough to try to get an item fixed, and after having to wait 6 months for this to be done, let along trying to complain. What are you going to do if clients or tenants complain? Brush it under the table, whereas a website like this allows everyone to read through both the positive and negative comments, and your disgusting responses and ma ...

“I have rented a property in Guildford for the past 2 ......”

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May 21,2014
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David
By: 'Ch1pp'
May 21,2014
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I have rented a property in Guildford for the past 2 years through David Rolph, who personally showed me and my house rates round multiple properties in the area. Both tenancies were efficiently organised and the quality of the properties has been excellent....
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“David has always asserted himself in a professional manner and ......”

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By: 'Adam'
May 08,2014
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David has always asserted himself in a professional manner and is a very friendly person to get along with. He has always given us enough notice when performing house viewings and has been extremely pro-active in solving any house problems, such as a broken gate ...
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“When looking for somewhere to for our second year at ......”

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Mar 18,2014
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David
By: 'WARNING'
Mar 18,2014
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When looking for somewhere to for our second year at University we were informed by David Rolph that he had many properties we could look at. He's a good salesman I'll give him that - talking up all the properties - spacious and great value ...
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By: David Rolph
Aug 13, 2014
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I am David Rolph, I deal with many hundreds of students each year and I have to say, I thoroughly enjoy it, however, just occasionally things go wrong. The tenants in question I found to be really nice throughout the tenancy so was a little disappointed to read that the feelings weren't mutual, however, I can see why they ended up being disappointed. Any issues were dealt with very quickly, however, they will have you believe differently It is true, the house was not perfect when they moved in, ...

“We had been trying to contact them, as student tenants, ......”

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By: 'UpsetTenant'
Sep 25,2013
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We had been trying to contact them, as student tenants, for a very long time regarding broken items, plumbing being poor and we were told that it would be "Taken care of" however, it never was. We understand that it is hard to manage properties, ...
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What agent could do to change your mind?
Had more staff on hand as there only appeared to be one person managing very many properties and therefore timing was insufficiently handled for what needed to be done.
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“This letting service is a waste of time. From the ......”

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May 21,2013
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Steven
By: 'VERY'
May 21,2013
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This letting service is a waste of time. From the start they provided us with incorrect information and this carried on to the the end of the contract. They do not respond to any forms of communication promptly, however, e-mail seems to get a better ...
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Be better!
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By: Steve
May 21, 2014
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Potential Tenant, I think the lack of response from the tenant is deafening! ...

“I have used S & W even when Mr. Smith was ......”

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Mar 22,2013
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Steven
By: 'G.'
Mar 22,2013
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I have used S & W even when Mr. Smith was working on his own, since 2003. In a decade I have been consistently impressed with his professionalism & rigour, which is why I return time after time. He is scrupulously fair between landlord & tenant. If he thinks ...
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“Dealt with any problems quickly and treated us fairly in ......”

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Aug 04,2012
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By: 'Jack'
Aug 04,2012
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Dealt with any problems quickly and treated us fairly in dealings with the landlord (unlike many other agents out there!)...
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“Rented an apartment from David & co. Found them honest, upfront ......”

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Jul 16,2012
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By: 'gerard'
Jul 16,2012
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Rented an apartment from David & co. Found them honest, upfront and very easy to deal with. Compared to the horrors we went through with previous letting agents such as GP, who tried to throw us out in the middle of december in snow with 2 weeks ...
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“I have used SWRL for 2 years of a student house ......”

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Jul 14,2012
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David
By: 'Zayn'
Jul 14,2012
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I have used SWRL for 2 years of a student house rental, with the current year due to finish this August. The company provides a professional and thorough service for check in/check out. Plenty of notice was provided when an agent required to visit/access ...
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“As a landlord, I find David Rolph very professional, friendly ......”

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Mar 01,2012
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David
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Mar 01,2012
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As a landlord, I find David Rolph very professional, friendly and knowledgeable about the business. I have never had a complaint from my tenants (mostly students) with regards to SWR and we are now increasingly having tenants that would like to stay in the same ...
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“I thought I would write this review in the capacity ......”

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Dec 03,2011
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David
By: 'Ian'
Dec 03,2011
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I thought I would write this review in the capacity of someone who is indirectly impacted by the service by Smith & Winborn and the tenants that occupy my wife's student let houses. My wife has used this agency for two years now. In two years, ...
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“I have a few houses that are managed by Smith & ......”

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Oct 16,2011
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By: 'Bijan'
Oct 16,2011
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I have a few houses that are managed by Smith & Winborn and I am extremely happy with the way they are dealing with my properties, with me and with my tenants. I am very busy with another business and therefore have very limited time to ...
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“We have used the services of this Letting Agent at ......”

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Aug 18,2011
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By: 'Michael'
Aug 18,2011
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We have used the services of this Letting Agent at least fifteen times and have always found them to be professional at all times. The level of professional advice, to referencing, to inventories, across the board, Smith, Winborn & Rolph have given the utmost help. We ...
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“Unsurprisingly it's only really the landlords who've left positive reviews, ......”

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By: 'RedDove'
Aug 16,2011
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Unsurprisingly it's only really the landlords who've left positive reviews, as has been mentioned by others, they only have the landlord's interests at heart, it's all about the £££!...
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“Integrity, honest and reliability count for a massive amount in ......”

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Aug 11,2011
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By: 'diva'
Aug 11,2011
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Integrity, honest and reliability count for a massive amount in these days of phone hacking and corruption - and thankfully this company has these qualities. I'd be happy to use them again./...
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“This was a thoroughly appalling agency. It would seem they ......”

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Jul 27,2011
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By: 'Sam5'
Jul 27,2011
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This was a thoroughly appalling agency. It would seem they are driven by the landlords whom they represent. Untrustworthy with data and basic property maintenance. The closing report highlighted problems which had been identified in the report for the previous tenants. None of the items ...
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Mar 25, 2015
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Dear representative of Smith&Winbourne, The property ombudsman, Association of Renting and Letting Agents and The University of Surrey are currently investigating Smith&Winbourne regarding contrctual misconduct. Also, owing to recent discrepencies with the transparency of certain tennant's contracts, the ASA have bee duly in informed of misadvertising. Furthermore, certain comments on this medium are deemed by Trading Standards as threatening. Furthermore, obtaining someone's identity ...

“I have used the services of Smith and Winborn for ......”

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Jul 20,2011
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By: 'P.'
Jul 20,2011
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I have used the services of Smith and Winborn for about four years continuously and I have been totally satisfied and continue to be. I am at a loss as to understand some of the comments I have read. All of my tenants past and ...
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By: Paula Backhouse
Aug 16, 2011
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Interesting.. 3 positive reviews appear on the same day after years of nothing? actually... that isn't interesting, it's obvious. Nice try guys x ...

“I wish I had found this company earlier!As a ......”

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Jul 20,2011
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By: 'Lesley'
Jul 20,2011
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I wish I had found this company earlier! As a novice landlord, Smith & Winborn have been a God send for us. They have now provided us with our 3rd set of tenants and are relentless in providing us with a quality service. Previously we had ...
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“I can't speak for everyone who has ever had dealings ......”

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Jul 20,2011
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By: 'C.'
Jul 20,2011
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I can't speak for everyone who has ever had dealings with Smith & Winborn but my experience with them has been nothing like what I am reading here. The estate agent that we dealt with was very helpful and not at all rude, he was always ...
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“Absolutely abismal agency, avoid at all costs.The agents are ......”

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Jul 06,2011
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By: 'Tim85'
Jul 06,2011
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Absolutely abismal agency, avoid at all costs. The agents are rude and obnoxious and provide little to no support to tenants with unresponsive landlords. Their dealings are \"shadey\" to say the least, especially during the tenant referencing phase, they require a lot of unnecessary personal ...
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By: Tim85
Aug 16, 2011
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Steven - I have chosen not to give you my real name for good reason; i am intimidated by your agency's business practices. as lead tenant I was given notification of viewings, but repeatedly with less than 24hrs notice, I've kept these texts (Which specify a "sent time" as well as the proposed "viewing time" should further investigation be required). However our deposits have since been regained so this review serves only as a warning to other prospective tenants. as for the unaccompanied ...

“What rude, ignorant and poor customer service! I wouldnt even ......”

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Jun 22,2011
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By: 'Bonza'
Jun 22,2011
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What rude, ignorant and poor customer service! I wouldnt even give them 1 star. dont ever use this company, if you can call it that. They dont even have an office or website! The emails you receive from him are rude, and incite anger. I have ...
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By: Steve
Apr 14, 2012
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It's a shame these people are allowed to make anonymous comments based on no real fact and just their personal feelings. Some prospective tenants we deal with are quite rude, and students can be particularly useless when it comes to reading the documents we send them. They then get upset because of their mistake and write these ludicrous comments. Whoever you are, please give the office a call! ...

“Pretty good, in comparison....”

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Apr 13,2011
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Apr 13,2011
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Pretty good, in comparison....
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“This is not a review so much on the entire ......”

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Mar 09,2011
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Mar 09,2011
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This is not a review so much on the entire company, but just on one estate agent I had the misfortune of encountering - *****. Now I understand that estate agents are very keen to make a sale and be done with it. But this guy ...
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By: steveswrl
Jul 19, 2011
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Hello, I am Steven Smith, the Managing Partner for Smith & Winborn. I always have a problem with these unnamed comments as it does not give me the opportunity to investigate and reply. Clearly if there is any substance to your comments I would like to know, so please call me (01483 573483). Thank you. ...
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